Several ‘Queer Northshore’ proponents waited by Zuckerman’s vehicle
Police officer escorted Zuckerman to vehicle
Zuckerman, witness reported ‘Pride’ supporters followed him in car from City Hall to lakefront
MANDEVILLE — A gaggle of ‘Queer Northshore’ supporters attempted to confront Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman in the City Hall parking lot near his vehicle, immediately after Thursday’s City Council meeting where he was the sole ‘no’ vote against the ‘Pride Northshore Parade’ special event permit, which passed 3-1.
Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman (City of Mandeville)
The same group — after seemingly being dispersed by a police officer who had to escort Zuckerman to his vehicle when witnesses reported a group lying in wait for him — hopped into their own vehicle and followed him for several miles to the lakefront, where Zuckerman made a series of turns to finally to lose the tail, according to Zuckerman.
Another witness captured the license plate number of the pursuing vehicle which has been turned over to Mandeville Police.
Mandeville Police Chief Todd Schliem issued the following statement in response to a Mandeville Daily query:
“Our public servants are fulfilling a sacred civic duty to serve our wonderful community. No one should ever be subjected to threats or intimidation, especially a public official over a disagreement with a public policy position.”
It is unclear what effect this incident could have on the standing of the ‘Pride Northshore Parade’ permit approved earlier in the meeting.
MANDEVILLE — The City Council voted 3-1 to approve a special event permit for the “Pride Northshore” parade down Lakeshore Drive scheduled for June 7th.
Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman voted against the permit. District III Councilwoman Jill Lane (formerly McGuire) was absent.
Queer Northshore was asking the City Council to approve its “Pride Northsore” parade special events permit tonight so that the group can parade down Lakeshore Drive for the second year in a row.
The application requests the closure of Lakeshore Drive in Old Mandeville starting at Jackson Avenue and ending at the Mandeville Trailhead on Girod Street on Saturday, June 7th, from 4 to 9 p.m.
Approval of the Special Event and Alcohol Permit Application for City of Mandeville — “Mandeville Live” to be held Fridays (March 21, 2025 – May 9, 2025) 6:30 p.m. – 8:30 p.m. Location: Mandeville Trailhead. Request: Approval to apply for ATC Alcohol permit Contingency: ATC permit.
‘Mandeville Family Reunion’: Approved 4-0
(District III Councilwoman Jill Lane)
Approval of the Special Event Permit and Request to Lift Ban on Food and Drinks on Lakefront for Susan Brady- “Mandeville Family Reunion” to be held May 25, 2025, from 10:00 a.m. – 8:00 p.m. Location: Mandeville Lakefront- stage near Lafayette Street. Request: Lift ordinance of food and drinks on lakefront. Contingency: Approval of food and drinks on lakefront.
‘Child Abuse Prevention and Awareness Walk’: Approved 4-0
(District III Councilwoman Jill Lane)
Approval of the Special Event Permit and Request to Lift Ban on Food and Drinks on Lakefront for Sherrard Crespo — “Child Abuse Prevention and Awareness Walk” to be held on April 12, 2025, from 7:30 a.m. – 11:30 p.m. Location: Lakefront Harbor to Gazebo Walk Path Request: Lift ordinance of food and drinks on lakefront. Contingency: Approval of food and drinks on lakefront.
‘Mandeville Food Truck Festival’: Approved 4-0
(District III Councilwoman Jill Lane)
Approval of the Special Event and Alcohol Permit Application for Mandeville Lion’s Club — “Mandeville Food Truck Festival” to be held on May 10, 2025, from 4:00 p.m. – 8:00 p.m. Location: Private Property (Mandeville Lion’s Club) Request: Approval to apply for ATC Alcohol Permit. Contingency: ATC permit.
‘Queer Northshore: Pride Northshore Parade’: Approved 3-1 (Zuckerman against)
(District III Councilwoman Jill Lane)
Approval of the Special Event and Alcohol Permit Application and Parade Route Approval for Queer Northshore — “Pride Northshore Parade” to be held on June 7, 2025, from 4:00 p.m. – 9:00 p.m. Location: Lakeshore Boat Launch to Trailhead (see map) Request: Approval to apply for ATC alcohol permit and parade route approval. Contingency: ATC permit and parade route approval.
‘Old Golden Gras Neighborhood Party’ date change: Approved 4-0
(District III Councilwoman Jill Lane)
“Old Golden Gras Neighborhood Party” Event was approved on 2-13-25 and requires approval for a date change to 3-2-25 from 12:00 p.m. -6:00 p.m. Location: Copal St (Between Cindy Lou and Live Oak). Approval Requests: Date change to 3-2-25 .
Editor’s Note: The published agenda for the February 27th meeting was revised since it was first published last Thursday. The original version of the agenda did not include the above item.
New Business:
Approval of Liquor License: Approved 4-0
(District III Councilwoman Jill Lane)
Approval of the liquor license for “Iceburg Charlie’s” (sic).
Ordinance 25-01 amends the City of Mandeville’s Operating Budget for the 2024-2025 fiscal year to allocate additional funding for social services. This adjustment, outlined in Budget Amendment No. 6 (Social Services) and detailed in the attached Exhibit “A,” is necessary due to expenditures exceeding the originally approved budget. The amendment follows the financial procedures set by the city’s Home Rule Charter. All other provisions of the original budget ordinance (Ordinance No. 24-22) will remain unchanged.
Editor’s Note: The published agenda for the February 27th meeting was revised since it was first published last Thursday. This item has been removed from the latest version of the agenda.
Ordinance 25-05 proposes the annexation of approximately 2.89 acres of land, encompassing portions of Lots 3 and 4 in Square 117, into the corporate limits of the City of Mandeville, which is the north side of Florida Street between Foy Street and Clausel Street. The annexed property will be designated as B-2 (Highway Business District) for zoning purposes, promoting commercial development, generating additional tax revenue, and creating employment opportunities. The ordinance also specifies revenue-sharing terms with St. Tammany Parish, allocating 80% of sales tax revenue to the City and 20% to the Parish, in accordance with prior agreements. The annexed property will fall within Council District 3, and the City’s zoning map will be updated to reflect these changes. The ordinance includes provisions ensuring its enforceability, even if specific sections are deemed invalid by a court.
Lots 3 and 4 in Square 117, into the corporate limits of the City of Mandeville. (Mandeville Daily)
Ordinance 25-06 proposes changes to “Sec. 2-6 – Indemnity” introducing several modifications to clarify and expand the scope of indemnification and exclusions for city employees, officers, and officials. While the original text allowed the City to select defense counsel and required officials to pay for their own counsel if they chose independent representation, the proposed changes permit officials to select their own defense counsel, subject to city council approval, which cannot be unreasonably withheld. This adjustment provides greater autonomy to those seeking legal representation while maintaining oversight to ensure responsible decision-making.
The proposed changes also expand the exclusions to indemnification. The original text excluded coverage for actions unrelated to legitimate governmental objectives, criminal or malicious behavior, and acts performed outside the course of employment. The proposed changes refine these provisions by explicitly stating that acts outside the “course and scope” of employment are excluded and by adding two new exclusions: lawsuits initiated by or at the request of the City (e.g., disciplinary proceedings) and punitive damages awards. These additions aim to safeguard city resources while ensuring that only legitimate claims related to public service are covered.
Finally, the proposed changes enhance clarity by separating reimbursement obligations into a new section. Both versions require officials found liable for excluded acts to reimburse the City for defense costs, but the proposed changes explicitly state that the City may recover attorneys’ fees incurred in enforcing reimbursement obligations. These revisions emphasize clarity, accountability, and precision, ensuring the ordinance balances protections for public servants with the responsible use of city resources.
A side-by-side comparison of the changes proposed by Ordinance 25-06 to city code. (Mandeville Daily)
Resolution 25-04 authorizes the Mayor of Mandeville to execute Amendment No. 1 to the professional services agreement between the city and Waggonner & Ball, Inc. The original agreement, established on May 15, 2023, covered various design and engineering services for the Police Department Building Design project. Since the estimated construction cost has increased from $4 million to $7.207 million, the consultant’s fee must be recalculated accordingly. The resolution ensures that the revised agreement reflects the updated cost estimate while maintaining the original scope of professional services.
Queer Northshore is asking the City Council to approve it’s “Pride Northsore” parade special events permit tonight so that the group can parade down Lakeshore Drive for the second year in a row.
The application requests the closure of Lakeshore Drive in Old Mandeville starting at Jackson Avenue and ending at or near Coffee Street on Saturday, June 7th, from 4 to 9 p.m.
Ordinance 25-04 would regulate the use of motorized conveyances on sidewalks within the City of Mandeville to enhance public safety and pedestrian accessibility. The ordinance defines motorized conveyances as any vehicle propelled by electric, gas, or battery power, excluding mobility devices for individuals with disabilities. Recognizing potential hazards posed by these vehicles, the city aims to balance the needs of different modes of transportation while prioritizing pedestrian safety.
Under the proposed ordinance, individuals over the age of ten are prohibited from operating motorized conveyances on sidewalks. Children aged ten and younger may use such devices under 5 mph, provided they do so safely without endangering or obstructing pedestrians. Additionally, motorized conveyances are strictly prohibited in business and commercial districts unless specifically allowed by signage. Exceptions are made for mobility devices, law enforcement officers performing official duties, and city workers or contractors who need access for maintenance or construction purposes.
Violations of the ordinance would result in a warning for the first offense, while subsequent violations may lead to a fine of up to $50 per occurrence. The ordinance includes a severability clause, ensuring that if any part of it is deemed invalid, the remaining provisions will still be enforceable.
Special Event Permits:
‘Mandeville Live’
(District III Councilwoman Jill Lane)
Approval of the Special Event and Alcohol Permit Application for City of Mandeville — “Mandeville Live” to be held Fridays (March 21, 2025 – May 9, 2025) 6:30 p.m. – 8:30 p.m. Location: Mandeville Trailhead. Request: Approval to apply for ATC Alcohol permit Contingency: ATC permit.
‘Mandeville Family Reunion’
(District III Councilwoman Jill Lane)
Approval of the Special Event Permit and Request to Lift Ban on Food and Drinks on Lakefront for Susan Brady- “Mandeville Family Reunion” to be held May 25, 2025, from 10:00 a.m. – 8:00 p.m. Location: Mandeville Lakefront- stage near Lafayette Street. Request: Lift ordinance of food and drinks on lakefront. Contingency: Approval of food and drinks on lakefront.
‘Child Abuse Prevention and Awareness Walk’
(District III Councilwoman Jill Lane)
Approval of the Special Event Permit and Request to Lift Ban on Food and Drinks on Lakefront for Sherrard Crespo — “Child Abuse Prevention and Awareness Walk” to be held on April 12, 2025, from 7:30 a.m. – 11:30 p.m. Location: Lakefront Harbor to Gazebo Walk Path Request: Lift ordinance of food and drinks on lakefront. Contingency: Approval of food and drinks on lakefront.
‘Mandeville Food Truck Festival’
(District III Councilwoman Jill Lane)
Approval of the Special Event and Alcohol Permit Application for Mandeville Lion’s Club- “Mandeville Food Truck Festival” to be held on May 10, 2025, from 4:00 p.m. – 8:00 p.m. Location: Private Property (Mandeville Lion’s Club) Request: Approval to apply for ATC Alcohol Permit. Contingency: ATC permit.
‘Queer Northshore: Pride Northshore Parade’
(District III Councilwoman Jill Lane)
Approval of the Special Event and Alcohol Permit Application and Parade Route Approval for Queer Northshore — “Pride Northshore Parade” to be held on June 7, 2025, from 4:00 p.m. – 9:00 p.m. Location: Lakeshore Boat Launch to Trailhead (see map) Request: Approval to apply for ATC alcohol permit and parade route approval. Contingency: ATC permit and parade route approval.
‘Old Golden Gras Neighborhood Party’ date change
(District III Councilwoman Jill Lane)
“Old Golden Gras Neighborhood Party” Event was approved on 2-13-25 and requires approval for a date change to 3-2-25 from 12:00 p.m. -6:00 p.m. Location: Copal St (Between Cindy Lou and Live Oak). Approval Requests: Date change to 3-2-25 .
Editor’s Note: The published agenda for the February 27th meeting was revised since it was first published last Thursday. The original version of the agenda did not include the above item.
New Business:
Approval of Liquor License
(District III Councilwoman Jill Lane)
Approval of the liquor license for “Iceburg Charlie’s” (sic).
Ordinance 25-01 amends the City of Mandeville’s Operating Budget for the 2024-2025 fiscal year to allocate additional funding for social services. This adjustment, outlined in Budget Amendment No. 6 (Social Services) and detailed in the attached Exhibit “A,” is necessary due to expenditures exceeding the originally approved budget. The amendment follows the financial procedures set by the city’s Home Rule Charter. All other provisions of the original budget ordinance (Ordinance No. 24-22) will remain unchanged.
Editor’s Note: The published agenda for the February 27th meeting was revised since it was first published last Thursday. This item has been removed from the latest version of the agenda.
Ordinance 25-05 proposes the annexation of approximately 2.89 acres of land, encompassing portions of Lots 3 and 4 in Square 117, into the corporate limits of the City of Mandeville, which is the north side of Florida Street between Foy Street and Clausel Street. The annexed property will be designated as B-2 (Highway Business District) for zoning purposes, promoting commercial development, generating additional tax revenue, and creating employment opportunities. The ordinance also specifies revenue-sharing terms with St. Tammany Parish, allocating 80% of sales tax revenue to the City and 20% to the Parish, in accordance with prior agreements. The annexed property will fall within Council District 3, and the City’s zoning map will be updated to reflect these changes. The ordinance includes provisions ensuring its enforceability, even if specific sections are deemed invalid by a court.
Lots 3 and 4 in Square 117, into the corporate limits of the City of Mandeville. (Mandeville Daily)
Ordinance 25-06 proposes changes to “Sec. 2-6 – Indemnity” introducing several modifications to clarify and expand the scope of indemnification and exclusions for city employees, officers, and officials. While the original text allowed the City to select defense counsel and required officials to pay for their own counsel if they chose independent representation, the proposed changes permit officials to select their own defense counsel, subject to city council approval, which cannot be unreasonably withheld. This adjustment provides greater autonomy to those seeking legal representation while maintaining oversight to ensure responsible decision-making.
The proposed changes also expand the exclusions to indemnification. The original text excluded coverage for actions unrelated to legitimate governmental objectives, criminal or malicious behavior, and acts performed outside the course of employment. The proposed changes refine these provisions by explicitly stating that acts outside the “course and scope” of employment are excluded and by adding two new exclusions: lawsuits initiated by or at the request of the City (e.g., disciplinary proceedings) and punitive damages awards. These additions aim to safeguard city resources while ensuring that only legitimate claims related to public service are covered.
Finally, the proposed changes enhance clarity by separating reimbursement obligations into a new section. Both versions require officials found liable for excluded acts to reimburse the City for defense costs, but the proposed changes explicitly state that the City may recover attorneys’ fees incurred in enforcing reimbursement obligations. These revisions emphasize clarity, accountability, and precision, ensuring the ordinance balances protections for public servants with the responsible use of city resources.
A side-by-side comparison of the changes proposed by Ordinance 25-06 to city code. (Mandeville Daily)
Resolution 25-04 authorizes the Mayor of Mandeville to execute Amendment No. 1 to the professional services agreement between the city and Waggonner & Ball, Inc. The original agreement, established on May 15, 2023, covered various design and engineering services for the Police Department Building Design project. Since the estimated construction cost has increased from $4 million to $7.207 million, the consultant’s fee must be recalculated accordingly. The resolution ensures that the revised agreement reflects the updated cost estimate while maintaining the original scope of professional services.
Legal battle over controversial development continues as residents seek to join the case
City Council to meet in executive session to discuss
MANDEVILLE — A federal court-ordered settlement conference in the ongoing Sucette Harbor lawsuit failed to produce a resolution, leaving the case to proceed through litigation.
The conference, held on February 24th before U.S. Magistrate Judge Eva J. Dossier in the Eastern District of Louisiana, brought together representatives from the key parties, including Woodward Harbor LLC, LSU Health Foundation New Orleans, the City of Mandeville, and individual litigant Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman. However, after over two hours of discussions, no settlement was reached.
The lawsuit, originally filed under Civil Action No. 23-5824, stems from a legal dispute over the proposed Sucette Harbor development rejected by the City Council in 2023. Woodward Harbor LLC and its partners have been at odds with the City of Mandeville over land use, zoning, and environmental concerns, while LSU Health Foundation New Orleans and Zuckerman have also entered the legal battle with separate interests.
In a related development, a coalition of local residents and environmental advocates filed a motion to intervene in the lawsuit on February 21st. This group seeks to have their voices heard in the legal proceedings, expressing concerns about the potential environmental impact of the proposed development on the Sucette Harbor area. Their involvement could introduce new perspectives and potentially complicate the litigation further.
Despite the failure to reach an agreement, the court has left the door open for further discussions. Judge Dossier advised that counsel for the parties may seek further assistance from the court if needed.
The City Council scheduled a special meeting for tonight at 6 p.m. to discuss the matter in an executive session, which in accordance with state law will be closed to the public.
With the impasse at the settlement table, the case is expected to move forward in federal court, where further legal proceedings will determine the future of the contested development.
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Minute entry from Sucette Harbor settlement conference February 24th, 2025. (Mandeville Daily)
The long-debated, often-criticized Sucette Harbor project was rejected September 5th, 2023, after a months-long process that generated a groundswell of opposition to building a hotel, events center, and apartment complex in the middle of a residential area at the west end of the Mandeville Lakefront.
The intervenors — a group of homeowners, a biologist, and the Orleans Audubon Society — petitioned the court to allow them to participate in the case, citing their personal, environmental, and property-related interests.
Sucette Harbor was a proposed development for the western end of the Mandeville lakefront. (Mandeville Daily)
The proposed intervenors include Lawrence Grundmann, Kathleen Grundmann, Emory Clark, Thomas Snedeker, Robert Ellis, Emily Ellis, Walter Bahn, Mary Bahn, Ellen A. O’Connell, James K. O’Connell, Tom Whalen, Teri Whalen, Ralph Whalen, Dr. Christopher G. Brantley, and the Orleans Audubon Society.
Their motion argues that the Sucette Harbor project will have severe environmental consequences, increase traffic congestion, and negatively impact property values in the area. They further claim that previous marina projects in the same location have led, or would have led, to disastrous results for Mandeville and its residents.
The Orleans Audubon Society and Dr. Christopher Brantley, a professional biologist, are particularly concerned with the project’s impact on wildlife habitats, including critical areas for migratory birds and native species. Their motion states that the project will destroy old-growth trees, disrupt wetland ecosystems, and contribute to increased erosion along the Lake Pontchartrain shoreline.
Additionally, the intervenors contend that the City of Mandeville’s Comprehensive Land Use Regulations Ordinance (CLURO) is not being properly followed, and that they have a distinct legal interpretation of these regulations that differs from both the plaintiffs and the defendants.
The Sucette Complaint, originally filed on October 5th, 2023 by Woodward Harbor LLC and the LSU Health Foundation New Orleans, alleges that the city improperly restricted development on the plaintiff’s land, violating property rights under the Takings Clause and other legal doctrines.
The city and co-defendant Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman have responded with multiple motions to dismiss, arguing that the case lacks merit or is not yet ripe for judicial review.
The proposed intervenors now seek to join the case as defendants, aligning with the city’s opposition to the project, but from an environmental and residential protection perspective rather than an economic or regulatory one.
The intervenors have also requested an expedited hearing and oral arguments, urging the court to consider their position before any settlement discussions or rulings take place.
The settlement conference is scheduled for Monday, February 24th.
If granted, their intervention would expand the scope of the litigation to include broader environmental and community-based concerns. If denied, they may need to pursue separate legal action or advocacy efforts to prevent the development from moving forward.
The court has yet to schedule a hearing on the motion, but with multiple dismissal motions, settlement discussions, and now an intervention request pending, the case is rapidly evolving. Legal analysts suggest that this new development could significantly influence the trajectory of the lawsuit and its potential outcomes for Mandeville residents, conservationists, and developers alike.
This remains a developing story, and further updates will follow as the court considers the intervention request and other pending motions.
MANDEVILLE — A cherished community cat named Boots, known for his friendly nature and iconic white “boots” on all four feet, was found dead this morning on the street near “The Bean” coffee shop. It appears that Boots was struck by a vehicle in the pre-dawn hours on Girod Street.
Boots the cat with Tommy the Turtle outside The Bean in June 2024. (Mandeville Daily)
For years, Boots had been a familiar and welcome presence at The Bean, where he was allowed to come and go as he pleased. Many patrons brought him food and treats while enjoying their Saturday morning coffee, and he never hesitated to share their company.
Boots’ passing is a heartbreaking loss for the neighborhood, as he had become a beloved fixture in the community. His gentle and affectionate nature made him a favorite among customers and staff alike.
With all nine lives extinguished, Boots was temporarily moved out of the street where he was found in the pre-dawn hours. (Mandeville Daily)
“He was part of the experience here,” said one regular. “Saturday mornings won’t be the same without him.”
Another cat, a gray Maine Coon mix who preferred to remain anonymous, was discovered standing guard over the body in the dark, apparently mourning the loss. The gray Maine Coon is not believed to be connected to the death of Boots.
Though Boots is gone, his memory will live on in the hearts of those who knew him. Community members are already sharing fond memories of him, and some have suggested putting up a small memorial near The Bean in his honor.
Mandeville implements new parking restrictions for Krewe of Eve parade amid safety concerns
MANDEVILLE — In response to recent safety concerns, the City of Mandeville has announced new security measures for the 2025 Krewe of Eve Mardi Gras Parade, scheduled to roll on Friday, February 21st.
According to a press release from the Mandeville Police Department, parking will no longer be allowed along the parade route roadsides, medians or shoulders this year. Officials say this decision is aimed at enhancing public safety and reducing potential risks for both spectators and parade participants.
“We understand this change might be inconvenient for some, as parking along the parade route has been a long-standing tradition,” the statement reads. “However, considering current circumstances, we believe this precaution is necessary to minimize potential risks.”
The move follows the New Year’s Day terror attack in New Orleans, as cities across Louisiana reassess their security measures for large public gatherings, especially during Mardi Gras season, which attracts thousands of revelers.
Paradegoers are encouraged to plan ahead for parking alternatives and to follow all city guidelines to ensure a safe and enjoyable event. Law enforcement officials also urge the public to remain vigilant and report any suspicious activity.
Statement from the Mandeville Police Department (February 11th):
Considering recent events and our continuous commitment to prioritize public safety, the City of Mandeville is implementing new security measures for the upcoming Krewe of Eve Parade, scheduled for February 21, 2025.
Parking will not be allowed on the parade route or the opposite side of the streets along the parade route this year. This measure is intended to help mitigate threats to the safety and security of all attendees and participants.
We understand this change might be inconvenient for some, as parking along the parade route has been a long-standing tradition. However, considering current circumstances, we believe this precaution is necessary to minimize potential risks.
We appreciate your understanding and cooperation in helping us work towards a safer and more enjoyable parade for everyone.
Ordinance 25-03 not carried over from canceled Jan. 23 meeting
Executive session called to discuss Sucette Harbor lawsuits
Editor’s Note: The Councilwoman from District III notified the City Council that she legally changed her name from “Jill McGuire” to “Jill Lane.” Mandeville Daily will refer to her accordingly moving forward.
MANDEVILLE — A controversial parking ordinance will not be introduced at the February 13th City Council meeting as had been expected after the cancellation of the January 23rd meeting where it was slated for introduction on the published agenda.
The Discon ordinance — which created a stir on social media — was the only voting item not to be carrying over from the January 23rd meeting after it was canceled due to snow.
Ordinance 25-03 could still be introduced at a future meeting, but as of publication date, it will not be introduced February 13th and hence cannot be considered at the subsequent February 27th meeting.
The meeting is scheduled for February 13th at 6 p.m. in Council Chambers at Mandeville City Hall.
Executive Session: Sucette Harbor Lawsuits
The Mandeville City Council has scheduled an executive session under Louisiana Revised Statutes 42:16 and 42:17(A)(2) to discuss the ongoing federal lawsuit, Woodward Harbor, LLC v. City of Mandeville, case number 23-05824, currently before the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana. Executive sessions are not open to the public.
This development follows U.S. District Judge Brandon S. Long’s recent order for a settlement conference between the involved parties. The conference aims to facilitate discussions that could lead to a resolution, though it does not mandate a settlement. The lawsuit, filed in 2023, centers on disputes over zoning and property rights, with developers and city officials at odds.
The executive session will be held at the end of the February 13th meeting.
Introduction of ordinances:
Ordinance 25-05
(Councilman at Large Scott Discon)
Ordinance 25-05 proposes the annexation of approximately 2.89 acres of land, encompassing portions of Lots 3 and 4 in Square 117, into the corporate limits of the City of Mandeville, which is the north side of Florida Street between Foy Street and Clausel Street. The annexed property will be designated as B-2 (Highway Business District) for zoning purposes, promoting commercial development, generating additional tax revenue, and creating employment opportunities. The ordinance also specifies revenue-sharing terms with St. Tammany Parish, allocating 80% of sales tax revenue to the City and 20% to the Parish, in accordance with prior agreements. The annexed property will fall within Council District 3, and the City’s zoning map will be updated to reflect these changes. The ordinance includes provisions ensuring its enforceability, even if specific sections are deemed invalid by a court.
Lots 3 and 4 in Square 117, into the corporate limits of the City of Mandeville. (Mandeville Daily)
Ordinance 25-06
(Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman)
Ordinance 25-06 proposes changes to “Sec. 2-6 – Indemnity” introducing several modifications to clarify and expand the scope of indemnification and exclusions for city employees, officers, and officials. While the original text allowed the City to select defense counsel and required officials to pay for their own counsel if they chose independent representation, the proposed changes permit officials to select their own defense counsel, subject to city council approval, which cannot be unreasonably withheld. This adjustment provides greater autonomy to those seeking legal representation while maintaining oversight to ensure responsible decision-making.
The proposed changes also expand the exclusions to indemnification. The original text excluded coverage for actions unrelated to legitimate governmental objectives, criminal or malicious behavior, and acts performed outside the course of employment. The proposed changes refine these provisions by explicitly stating that acts outside the “course and scope” of employment are excluded and by adding two new exclusions: lawsuits initiated by or at the request of the City (e.g., disciplinary proceedings) and punitive damages awards. These additions aim to safeguard city resources while ensuring that only legitimate claims related to public service are covered.
Finally, the proposed changes enhance clarity by separating reimbursement obligations into a new section. Both versions require officials found liable for excluded acts to reimburse the City for defense costs, but the proposed changes explicitly state that the City may recover attorneys’ fees incurred in enforcing reimbursement obligations. These revisions emphasize clarity, accountability, and precision, ensuring the ordinance balances protections for public servants with the responsible use of city resources.
A side-by-side comparison of the changes proposed by Ordinance 25-06 to city code. (Mandeville Daily)
Special Event Permits:
Approval of ‘Old Golden Gras Neighborhood Party’
(District III Councilwoman Jill Lane)
Special Event Permit Application for “Old Golden Gras Neighborhood Party” approved for February 23, 2025, from 11:00am-7:00pm on Copal St. Street closure and barricade usage contingent upon Council and Police approval.
Approval of ‘Krewe of Eve Parade’ Preparations
(District III Councilwoman Jill Lane)
Approval of the Viewing Stage for Milestone Project Services- “Krewe of Eve Parade” to be held February 21, 2025 from 4:00-10:00pm. Rain Date: N/A Location: 1265 West Causeway Approach Median (See Map) Approval Requests: Permission to set up stage in the median (50 people), Council approval of location. Contingent upon: Certificate of Insurance, Council approval of location, agree to remove stage after parade.
Unfinished Business:
Adoption of Ordinance 24-46
(District II Councilman Kevin Vogeltanz)
Ordinance 24-46 proposes authorizing the Mayor of Mandeville to execute the necessary documents to establish and purchase a drainage and access servitude on Lots 1 and 2 in the Lewisburg Subdivision for $307,403.00, as appraised by Murphy Appraisal Services. This servitude will support improvements to the Old Golden Shores drainage system, specifically the primary outfall channel running from Elm Street to Lake Pontchartrain, addressing drainage needs for the surrounding area. The transaction will include reasonable closing costs, and the property transfer must be free of encumbrances. The ordinance takes effect immediately upon the Mayor’s signature.
Adoption of Resolution 24-69
(Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman)
Resolution 24-69 authorizes the Mayor to execute a professional services agreement with Greenleaf Architects, APAC, for the City Hall renovations project. The agreement, signed on December 05, 2024, includes architectural design work for the New Council Chambers and other renovations.
New Business:
Approval of Change Order No. 3
(Councilman at Large Scott Discon)
Approval of Change Order No. 3 for the 2022 Roadway & Drainage Maintenance Contract adding new pay items X-018, no change in contract limit or time.
Approval of Change Order No. 5
(Councilman at Large Scott Discon)
Approval of change Order No. 5 for the 2022 Striping Maintenance Contract adding an additional speed radar sign foundation, with no change in maximum contract amount or time.
Approval of Change Order No. 2
(District II Councilman Kevin Vogeltanz)
Approval of Change Order No. 2 for the Golden Glen Water System Replacement Project adding an additional 70 days to the time with the completion date of April 11, 2025.
Approval of Change Order No. 4
(Councilman at Large Scott Discon)
Approval of Change Order No. 4 for the 2022 Asphalt Maintenance Contract to add pay items 04-001-04-011, no change in the maximum contract time or amount.
Adoption of Resolution 25-02
(Councilman at Large Scott Discon)
Resolution 25-02 would authorize the Mayor of the City of Mandeville to execute an amendment to the professional services agreement with Fairway Consulting+Engineering for upgrades to Lift Stations 13, 18, and 37. The amendment extends the agreement by one year, through November 9, 2025, to allow the consultant to continue construction administration services. The extension does not modify the scope of work, add additional fees, or change the maximum compensation under the original agreement. This resolution ensures continuity in the project’s administration without increasing costs.
Adoption of Resolution 25-03
(Councilman at Large Scott Discon)
Resolution 25-03 authorizes the Mayor to execute Amendment No.4 to the Professional Services Agreement with Fairway Consulting and Engineering, LLC. The amendment extends the agreement for an additional year and includes additional scope of work and fees.
Does not mean judge is ‘ordering’ parties to settle
Talks could help judge assess merits if no agreement
Dismissal of both cases still on table
MANDEVILLE — A federal judge has ordered a “settlement conference” in the ongoing lawsuits between Woodward Harbor LLC and the LSU Health Foundation New Orleans, and the City of Mandeville and Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman.
The order doesn’t mean that U.S. District Judge Brandon S. Long is actually “ordering” the parties to settle the cases. Instead, it suggests that they at least attempt discussions to assess the current state of affairs before he goes any further. It’s been 14 months since the lawsuits were filed and Long is not the original judge assigned to the case.
According to a minute entry filed on January 31st, Long held a status conference with attorneys representing both parties.
After the discussions, the court instructed counsel to contact U.S. Magistrate Judge Eva J. Dossier to schedule a settlement conference in February.
The lawsuits, filed in 2023, have been a contentious issue in Mandeville, with developers and city officials at odds over zoning and property rights.
While the order does not take dismissals off the table, judges can require settlement conferences before hearing cases like these for numerous reasons which may include the following:
Reduces court backlog by freeing time for trials.
Saves judicial resources and time by avoiding lengthy hearings and evidence review.
Existing signs say parking already restricted on Lakeshore Drive
There are over 40 signs along the 1.5-mile stretch of Lakeshore Drive (not including speed limit, historical markers, and pet waste disposal signs), among which are at least a dozen no-parking signs that appear to contradict even the existing law at Section 10-70, which only prohibits parking for more than six hours.
According to current signage on Lakeshore Drive, parking is either prohibited from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m., 2 a.m. to 6 a.m., completely prohibited around the clock, or not prohibited at all. And these no-parking signs have been there for years, dating back from before any of the current council members or mayor.
Although it’s challenging to discern where one parking zone ends and another starts, the casual observer would have to conclude that some form of nighttime parking is already illegal on at least half to three-quarters of Lakeshore Drive.
A selection of the numerous no-parking signs along Lakeshore Drive. There are over 40 signs in all, covering other activities such as parking on the grass, littering, picnicking, etc. (Mandeville Daily)
Where did all the no-parking and other signs come from?
Mandeville Daily couldn’t find in the city code of ordinances where the Lakeshore Drive no-parking zones are codified. The only places that even come close are sections 10-70, 10-72, and 10-73 which prohibit parking longer than six hours, “sleeping overnight,” and parking in medians, respectively.
However, under Louisiana law, infractions related to parking signs can be cited. La. R.S. § 32:143(14) says that parking is prohibited “at any place where official signs prohibit such.” And we do seem to have plenty of signs along Lakeshore Drive that do indeed prohibit such.
This means that according to state law you already can be cited if you are parked across from “The Barley Oak” or “Donz on the Lake” starting at 2 a.m. And if you park your car to work out at 5:15 a.m., again, you could be cited. That’s what the signs say.
But the real question is, who had the signs along Lakeshore Drive erected in the first place?
LaGrange may have been referring to Section 10-64 “Regulations at Specific Locations” which says “the mayor and councilmen” as a body can “restrict” parking “from time to time” (as needed) at various locations.
‘NO DUMPING’ signs on West Beach Parkway were first spray-painted to just say ‘NO’ but now they have been repurposed to help find a lost cat. (Mandeville Daily)
Mandeville Daily asked Mr. Discon about the alleged confrontations and if he had ordered the signs erected to which we received the following reply, along with forwarded responses from City Attorney Elizabeth Sconzert and another lawyer from the Blue Williams Law Firm:
“Please see the attached and remember there is No Parking and /or Littering on Public thoroughfares in the City of Mandeville. Public Works put the signs out; I only suggested aa (sic) reduction in the number of signs and placement to work with the residents of both of Mandeville’s historic avenues,” Mr. Discon wrote in part.
The “attached” essentially provided a legal rationale from Blue Williams explaining why littering and dumping leaves are unlawful and that the city doesn’t need permits to install signs.
Death by a thousand cuts… or signs
Is this simply a situation where elected officials have ordered, requested, or “suggested” certain signs at various locations in order to address pet-peeve code violations, or perhaps to appease complaints from “Karen” constituents, and then the Public Works Department felt compelled to comply?
Some sources are telling Mandeville Daily that’s exactly what’s been going on in Mandeville for decades, from before the current City Council and mayor, and no one has really noticed the broader problem it has created — sign litter or sign creep — until now.
They say that Section 10-70 (no parking longer than six hours) originated in either 1979 or 1985, probably to keep residents of Lakeshore Drive at the time from using public parking spaces adjacent to or across from their homes as their own personal parking.
But how we transitioned from the initial six-hour prohibition to the dozen or so signs with varying parking periods remains a mystery. It was probably driven by the best intentions, but has resulted in a bunch of signs that don’t match what’s on the books, and on face value seem quite onerous.
And the fact remains: these signs are definitely enforceable, should officials choose to do so.
Creates more problems than it solves
Proposed Ordinance 25-03 would only cause more chaos and add new parties to the list of the offended, i.e. Woodrow and General Pershing streets.
What about the St. Tammany Parish School System buses that park on Woodrow Street?
The preamble of Ordinance 25-03 mentions a “hardship” faced by the Mandeville Police Department in enforcing the “in excess of six (6) hours” rule as one of the factors prompting the proposed modifications.
But the no-parking signs all along Lakeshore Drive already negate the six-hour rule, giving authorities the ability to write tickets for parked cars between 2 a.m. and 6 a.m. today, right now, without this proposed ordinance.
Wouldn’t it create a far greater burden on the Mandeville Police Department to have to track which vehicles along Woodrow or General Pershing streets belong to residents of the local apartments and hence exempt as stated in Ordinance 25-03?
Wouldn’t the city have to issue parking permits to accomplish this?
I would find it hard to believe that it’s the Mandeville Police Department who is clamoring for this ordinance. If not, then who is? Who would stand to benefit?
Council needs to overhaul Old Mandeville signage strategy and process
Seen as act of defiance against sign clutter on historic streets
Mayor said he didn’t order signs erected
Update: As of Friday, January 31st, all of the recently erected no-dumping signs on West Beach Parkway have been removed by order of Mayor Clay Madden.
MANDEVILLE — Someone has taken matters into their own hands on West Beach Parkway by spray-painting two of the recently erected “NO DUMPING” signs to read simply “NO” in an apparent act of defiance.
It remains unclear who at the City of Mandeville ordered no-dumping and no-parking signs erected along Marigny Avenue and West Beach Parkway in late 2024.
In December, Mayor Clay Madden told Mandeville Daily that he didn’t order the signs on either street.
But Public Works Director Keith LaGrange had previously indicated during council meetings that City Council approval via ordinance is required to erect no-parking signs.
Outlaws lakefront parking before 6AM — even for workouts
Would prohibit parking ‘between’ 2AM and 6AM in listed areas
Adds Trailhead streets, parking lot to ‘prohibited’ list
Could end overnight school-bus parking on Woodrow Street
Comes on heels of Marigny Avenue parking and dumping signs kerfuffle
Updated to include reporting on existing no-parking signage along Lakeshore Drive. (1/24/2025)
MANDEVILLE — Predawn parking along the lakefront, including for those who briefly leave their vehicles while they walk or jog, could soon become illegal — before 6 a.m. that is — if a proposed ordinance becomes law.
Councilman at Large Scott Discon has proposed Ordinance 25-03 which would outlaw parking, regardless of how brief, between the hours of 2 a.m. and 6 a.m. along Lakeshore Drive, General Pershing Street, Woodrow Street, and a city-owned parking lot near the Mandeville Trailhead.
The far western end of Woodrow Street is where St. Tammany Parish School System buses are often seen parked overnight, a practice that would presumably become illegal with this ordinance.
The typical morning routine on Lakeshore Drive begins around 5 a.m. when a cluster of cars, SUVs, and pickup trucks are parked along the street. Their owners, usually in the dark, embark on their morning exercise routines, particularly during the summer months, to avoid the heat.
Local bars and taverns, such as “Donz on the Lake” and “The Barley Oak,” close at 2 a.m. on weekends, which means patrons parking on Lakeshore Drive would need to move their vehicles by closing time else risk being cited, should Ordinance 25-03 become law.
Muddying the waters is the fact that there are already no-parking signs scattered along Lakeshore Drive with wording to prohibit parking between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. or 2 a.m. to 6 a.m. Ordinance 25-03 does not address these existing no-parking signs or where the prohibited parking starts and stops, nor could Mandeville Daily find where or when they were established in city code.
Lakeshore Drive no-parking signs leave motorists confused as to where parking zones start and stop. (Mandeville Daily)
Ordinance 25-03 would alter Section 10-70, of the City of Mandeville’s Code or Ordinances which prohibits “permanent parking” along the lakefront.
Section 10-70, titled “Permanent parking prohibited; definition; penalty for violation,” currently defines “permanent parking” as “parking in excess of six(6) hours.” The fines are set forth under Appendix C of the code of ordinances.
Comparison of current city code vs. proposed Ordinance 25-03 (as of publication date and time). (Mandeville Daily)
Ordinance 25-03 would change that definition to read, “‘Permanent Parking’ shall be defined as parking between the hours of 2:00am-6:00am. (sic)”
This means that under a stricti juris interpretation, Ordinance 25-03’s redefinition of “permanent parking” would consider any vehicle parked even for a short period between 2:00 a.m. and 6:00 a.m. in violation of city code.
Discon’s proposal would also add to the prohibited areas Woodrow Street from Girod to Carroll streets (except for certain local residents), General Pershing Street from Girod to Carroll streets (except for certain local residents), which lie on the north and south sides of the Mandeville Trailhead, and the city-owned parking lot at the Trailhead.
Map showing newly prohibited predawn parking areas under a proposed ordinance. (Mandeville Daily)
The preamble of Ordinance 25-03 mentions a “hardship” faced by the Mandeville Police Department in enforcing the “in excess of six (6) hours” rule as one of the factors prompting the proposed modifications:
“WHEREAS, recognizing that the current time limitation on parking in the above-described areas imposes a hardship on the City of Mandeville Police’s record keeping efforts of ‘permanent parking’;”
In December, Mayor Clay Madden directed the removal of recently installed “NO PARKING” and “NO DUMPING” signs from the historic Marigny Avenue median, as he had not authorized their installation. Residents reported confrontations with city officials, including Discon, regarding activities like blowing leaves onto the median. In response to a Mandeville Daily request for comment as to who ordered the signs erected, Discon responded that parking and littering on public thoroughfares are illegal and that the Public Works Department had installed the signs. However, Public Works Director Keith LaGrange previously indicated that City Council approval via ordinance is required to erect no-parking signs.
Ordinance 25-03 was slated for “introduction” at the January 23rd City Council meeting, but that meeting was canceled due to the aftermath of the snowstorm that hit the deep south January 21st.
Assuming the January 23rd agenda is moved to the February 13th regular meeting, the earliest Ordinance 25-03 could come up for discussion and a vote would be at the February 27th regular meeting. Ordinances are neither discussed nor debated when introduced.
Ordinance 25-03 would amend Section 10-70 of Mandeville’s Code of Ordinances, redefining “permanent parking” as parking between 2:00 a.m. and 6:00 a.m., instead of the previous six-hour rule, to ease police enforcement, meaning even brief parking would become prohibited in the outlined streets and areas. The ordinance would expand prohibited parking areas to include both sides of Woodrow Street from Girod to Carroll Streets (with exceptions for certain residents), General Pershing Street from Girod to Carroll Streets (with exceptions for apartment residents), and the city-owned Trailhead parking lot. These changes aim to promote orderly use of public spaces, accommodate community needs, and optimize police resources. Violators will face penalties under Section 1-9 of the Code of Ordinances.
Ordinance 25-05
(Councilman at Large Scott Discon)
Ordinance 25-05 proposes the annexation of approximately 2.89 acres of land, encompassing portions of Lots 3 and 4 in Square 117, into the corporate limits of the City of Mandeville, which is the north side of Florida Street between Foy Street and Clausel Street. The annexed property will be designated as B-2 (Highway Business District) for zoning purposes, promoting commercial development, generating additional tax revenue, and creating employment opportunities. The ordinance also specifies revenue-sharing terms with St. Tammany Parish, allocating 80% of sales tax revenue to the City and 20% to the Parish, in accordance with prior agreements. The annexed property will fall within Council District 3, and the City’s zoning map will be updated to reflect these changes. The ordinance includes provisions ensuring its enforceability, even if specific sections are deemed invalid by a court.
Lots 3 and 4 in Square 117, into the corporate limits of the City of Mandeville. (Mandeville Daily)
Ordinance 25-06
(Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman)
Ordinance 25-06 proposes changes to “Sec. 2-6 – Indemnity” introducing several modifications to clarify and expand the scope of indemnification and exclusions for city employees, officers, and officials. While the original text allowed the City to select defense counsel and required officials to pay for their own counsel if they chose independent representation, the proposed changes permit officials to select their own defense counsel, subject to city council approval, which cannot be unreasonably withheld. This adjustment provides greater autonomy to those seeking legal representation while maintaining oversight to ensure responsible decision-making.
The proposed changes also expand the exclusions to indemnification. The original text excluded coverage for actions unrelated to legitimate governmental objectives, criminal or malicious behavior, and acts performed outside the course of employment. The proposed changes refine these provisions by explicitly stating that acts outside the “course and scope” of employment are excluded and by adding two new exclusions: lawsuits initiated by or at the request of the City (e.g., disciplinary proceedings) and punitive damages awards. These additions aim to safeguard city resources while ensuring that only legitimate claims related to public service are covered.
Finally, the proposed changes enhance clarity by separating reimbursement obligations into a new section. Both versions require officials found liable for excluded acts to reimburse the City for defense costs, but the proposed changes explicitly state that the City may recover attorneys’ fees incurred in enforcing reimbursement obligations. These revisions emphasize clarity, accountability, and precision, ensuring the ordinance balances protections for public servants with the responsible use of city resources.
A side-by-side comparison of the changes proposed by Ordinance 25-06 to city code. (Mandeville Daily)
Special Event Permits:
Approval of ‘Krewe of Eve Parade’ Preparations
(District III Councilwoman Jill McGuire)
Approval of the Viewing Stage for Milestone Project Services- “Krewe of Eve Parade” to be held February 21, 2025 from 4:00-10:00pm. Rain Date: N/A Location: 1265 West Causeway Approach Median (See Map) Approval Requests: Permission to set up stage in the median (50 people), Council approval of location. Contingent upon: Certificate of Insurance, Council approval of location, agree to remove stage after parade.
Unfinished Business:
Adoption of Ordinance 24-46
(District II Councilman Kevin Vogeltanz)
Ordinance 24-46 proposes authorizing the Mayor of Mandeville to execute the necessary documents to establish and purchase a drainage and access servitude on Lots 1 and 2 in the Lewisburg Subdivision for $307,403.00, as appraised by Murphy Appraisal Services. This servitude will support improvements to the Old Golden Shores drainage system, specifically the primary outfall channel running from Elm Street to Lake Pontchartrain, addressing drainage needs for the surrounding area. The transaction will include reasonable closing costs, and the property transfer must be free of encumbrances. The ordinance takes effect immediately upon the Mayor’s signature.
New Business:
Approval of Change Order No. 3
(Councilman at Large Scott Discon)
Approval of Change Order No. 3 for the 2022 Roadway & Drainage Maintenance Contract adding new pay items X-018, no change in contract limit or time.
Adoption of Resolution 25-02
(Councilman at Large Scott Discon)
Resolution 25-02 would authorize the Mayor of the City of Mandeville to execute an amendment to the professional services agreement with Fairway Consulting+Engineering for upgrades to Lift Stations 13, 18, and 37. The amendment extends the agreement by one year, through November 9, 2025, to allow the consultant to continue construction administration services. The extension does not modify the scope of work, add additional fees, or change the maximum compensation under the original agreement. This resolution ensures continuity in the project’s administration without increasing costs.
Members in attendance were: Councilman at Large (Council Chairman) Scott Discon, Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman, District I Councilwoman Cynthia Strong Thompson, District II Councilman Kevin Vogeltanz, and District III Councilwoman Jill McGuire.
Below are the links to the exact start and end locations for each agenda item in the official council video of the meeting, along with the duration of each item.
Approval of Special Event Permit (JuJu’s Journey): Approved 5-0
(voice) Zuckerman: Y McGuire: Y Strong-Thompson: Y Vogeltanz: Y Discon: Y
Adoption of Ordinance 24-37 (budget adjustment to allow for parks matching funds from state): Adopted 5-0
‘Mandeville’ mentioned as crime scene in connection with New Orleans terror attack is actually Mandeville Street on South Shore
MANDEVILLE — The “Mandeville” mentioned this morning (January 2nd) as a crime scene in connection with the terror attack in New Orleans is actually “Mandeville Street” on the South Shore, not the City of Mandeville.
North Shore residents had to do a double-take this morning when watching a televised joint news conference of the FBI, Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry, and other officials.
FBI Deputy Assistant Director Christopher Raia mentioned a crime scene in “Mandeville” which triggered speculation that there was a local connection to the terror attack.
“We also have a scene of a Mandeville address, where we are currently searching that scene right now,” Raia said at the nationally televised news conference.
However, Mandeville Police Chief Todd Schliem told Mandeville Daily that Raia was referring to Mandeville Street in the St. Roch area of New Orleans.
Schliem said he had already received a call from the CNN television network concerning the matter.
Residents report warning from council member, police over leaves, parking in median
Signs appeared in recent weeks before confrontation with council member
Mayor never received request for signs to be erected, ordered them removed
MANDEVILLE — A series of recently installed “NO PARKING” and “NO DUMPING” signs have been removed from the historic Marigny Avenue median, at the direction of Mayor Clay Madden.
Some residents claim they were video-recorded and confronted by officials from the city recently, which included Councilman at Large Scott Discon, over leaves being blown onto the Marigny Avenue median in front of their homes.
Madden said he never received a request to install the signs, and he was therefore directing the Public Works Department to remove them as soon as possible.
The installation of the signs was not sanctioned by the City Council via ordinance either.
Mandeville Daily inquired with Discon about the Marigny Avenue signage and the alleged confrontation with residents. However, Discon clarified that it’s illegal to park and litter on Mandeville streets. He also mentioned that the Public Works Department installed the signs, and he had requested a reduction or consolidation of the signage after they were installed. His statement made no mention of a confrontation with homeowners nor who ordered the signs in the first place.
“Please see the attached (statements from the city legal department) and remember there is no parking and/or littering on public thoroughfares in the City of Mandeville. Public Works put the signs out; I only suggested a reduction in the number of signs and placement to work with the residents of both of Mandeville’s historic avenues,” Discon said in a statement to Mandeville Daily.
But according to previous on-the-record comments by Public Works Director Keith LaGrange in 2021 and 2023, City Council approval via ordinance is required to erect no-parking signs.
Collage of the new ‘NO PARKING’ signs erected along Marigny Avenue. The signs have since been removed. (Mandeville Daily)
Parking addressed by council in 2021 and 2023
In 2021, the City Council may have unwittingly outlawed parking on all medians throughout the city when it adopted Ordinance 21-30, which reads in part “parking on any median strip, within the city limits of the City of Mandeville … is prohibited.”
Ordinance 21-30 created Section 10-73 in the Code of Ordinances, defining medians as “the strip of land between lanes of opposing traffic on a divided highway.”
But there was no provision in the ordinance to erect no-parking signs, despite the sponsor, former District II Councilman Dr. Skelly Kreller, mentioning at the meeting that he had forgotten to include them and wanted them erected.
“Just for housekeeping purposes … If there’s ever gonna be a need to put a sign in the median, now would be the time to pass that, because no signs can be installed without your approval,” LaGrange told the council at the meeting.
However, Madden responded to the suggestion with concern that the residents of those two areas, based on conversations he had with them, would likely oppose the signage.
Ordinance 21-30 was adopted unanimously, without a provision for erecting no-parking signs.
In Discon’s statement to Mandeville Daily, he forwarded an additional statement from attorney Stephanie Hough of the Blue Williams Law Firm, who presumably acts as an assistant to City Attorney Elizabeth Sconzert.
According to the forwarded emails, Hough had been asked to research the matter by Sconzert. Her finding was that the aforementioned Ordinance 21-30 or Section 10-73 made it illegal to park in medians.
LaGrange also said, “We allow parking on the sides of streets,” which would seem to contradict Discon’s statement that “there is no parking and/or littering on public thoroughfares.”
Officials confronted residents over leaves
A Marigny Avenue resident who requested to remain anonymous informed Mandeville Daily that the commotion appears to be primarily centered around the “no dumping” rule, as residents have consistently taken it upon themselves to create mulch around the trees in the median, as well as other minor landscaping improvements in front of their homes.
During heavy rains and hurricanes, flood waters frequently carry significant debris onto the median and their yards, according to local residents. Historically, they and their neighbors have taken it upon themselves to clean up these areas, they said.
The homeowner said she was video-recorded by a public works department employee recently as she was blowing leaves onto the median, and a short time later what she described as a Mandeville code enforcement official showed up to give her a warning.
She said Discon arrived about the same time and also warned her about doing work in the median. She said Discon told her the signs may be removed if the locals were to stop dumping and parking in the median.
However, the signs installed on Marigny Avenue were the permanent, official street signs, conforming to the U.S. Department of Transportation’s Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD).
Another Marigny Avenue resident, who also requested anonymity, informed Mandeville Daily that a police officer visited their home to caution them against continuing to clean up the median. The resident expressed their surprise, stating that this issue has never been a concern in their four-plus-decades of home ownership on Marigny Avenue.
Signs detracted from historic street
Some say the signs ruined the character of one of the most historic streets in the city, which was named after Mandeville’s founder, Bernard Xavier Philippe de Marigny de Mandeville.
Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman said he didn’t believe the signs in the Marigny Avenue median were needed and ruined the aesthetic of what is supposed to be one of Mandeville’s most historic sites.
“Installing permanent signs such as ‘no parking’ and ‘no dumping’ — especially on the street named after our founder — is something that should have come before the council as a whole,” Zuckerman said.
The decades-old practice of parking in the median of Marigny Avenue has been heavily relied upon by attendees of local events like the “Light Up The Lake” Independence Day celebration, the “Mandeville Family Reunion,” the “Sunset Symphony,” and other regionally popular happenings.
Some estimates suggest that the median on Marigny Avenue can accommodate parking for about 200 vehicles. Consequently, a ban on parking there could affect Mandeville’s capacity to host large events on the lakefront.
MANDEVILLE — The City Council unanimously appointed Judge Pat Rosenow to a vacant seat on the Planning & Zoning Commission tonight (December 19th). This meeting was a stark contrast to the recent meetings where the matter of appointment was debated with rancor.
As anticipated, the nominating committee, comprising Councilman at Large Scott Discon and District I Councilwoman Cynthia Strong-Thompson, first nominated Shawn Potter. After a lengthy discussion and public comment, Potter’s appointment was rejected with a vote of 2-3, with only Discon and Strong-Thompson in favor.
In accordance with council rules, Strong-Thompson and Discon presented a second nomination, this time for Judge Pat Rosenow. Following a brief discussion, the council unanimously approved his appointment to the vacant seat.
The nominating committee met December 5th to re-deliberate in public. No nominee was announced at the meeting, although City Attorney Elizabeth Sconzert indicated at the November 21st council meeting that she expected Potter to be nominated again.
The council had three applicants for the position: Ernest Burguières, a local attorney and former council member with regional planning expertise; Shawn Potter, Tulane University’s director of institutional research; and Judge Pat Rosenow, a chief administrative law judge with the U.S. Department of Labor.
The council chambers were predominantly filled with locals who had come to express their opinions on the matter. Twelve individuals spoke in favor of Rosenow, while a several advocated for Potter and Burguières.
Appointment would bring controversial process to an end
MANDEVILLE — The City Council is scheduled to fill a vacancy on the Planning & Zoning Commission at tonight’s meeting (December 19th), potentially bringing a lengthy process mired in controversy and challenges to an end.
The nominating committee, made up of Councilman at Large Scott Discon and District I Councilwoman Cynthia Strong-Thompson, met December 5th to re-deliberate in public. No nominee was announced at the meeting, although City Attorney Elizabeth Sconzert indicated at the November 21st council meeting that she expected Potter to be nominated again.
The council has three applicants for the position: Ernest Burguières, a local attorney and former council member with regional planning expertise; Shawn Potter, Tulane University’s director of institutional research; and Judge Pat Rosenow, a chief administrative law judge with the U.S. Department of Labor.
“Nomination and Appointment of Candidate to the Mandeville Planning and Zoning Commission.”
Under Louisiana’s Open Meetings Law (La. R.S. 42:19(A)(1)(b)(ii)(bb)) there is a requirement for “reasonable specificity” in agenda items for public meetings.
Excerpt from La. R.S. 42:19(A)(1)(b)(ii)(bb). (Mandeville Daily)
Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman brought up the same issue at the October 24th meeting as the reason the council couldn’t vote on Potter that night — which they didn’t — presumably because “reasonable specificity” would have meant including the name of the person being appointed on the published agenda.
Ethics opinions requested without council consent
Sconzert contacted Rosenow’s Department of Labor superiors in early November to assess potential conflicts of interest for his role as an administrative law judge.
However, Sconzert did not inform the City Council that she was doing so nor did the council adopt a resolution to ask for the opinion, which is the normal process.
Sconzert’s request for the ethics opinion on Rosenow came after the October 24th council meeting where a majority of City Council members expressed opposition to Potter’s nomination.
Strong-Thompson also sought an ethics opinion on Rosenow in November from the Louisiana Attorney General’s office without the approval of the City Council.
Both officials noted that such opinions, which are non-binding, could take considerable time to obtain, leaving Rosenow’s candidacy in limbo, according to Discon.
“Two are qualified without any asterisk; we’ve got one with an asterisk,” Discon stated, referencing Rosenow’s pending ethics evaluations.
He suggested that Rosenow’s candidacy should be deferred until the questions surrounding his eligibility were resolved, emphasizing that “we appoint someone to the commission once a year, so in a matter of three years all three of these applicants could be on planning and zoning.”
Sconzert and Discon both told Mandeville Daily they were not aware of Rosenow’s email, sent at 3:39 p.m., before or during the meeting, which started at 4:30 p.m.
Updated 12/19/2024: A typographical error in the last paragraph of this report has been updated to reflect that neither Mr. Discon nor Ms. Sconzert were aware of Judge Rosenow’s email before the December 5th meeting. Prior reporting by Mandeville Daily on December 12th correctly reported this information.
While transparency and legal rigor are crucial, the city attorney’s approach carries the risk of establishing a precedent that could hinder future appointments as well as council decisions in general.
While her intentions may have been rooted in ensuring compliance with ethics rules, the action creates a framework where any council member could invoke higher legal review to derail appointments.
Blowing the lid off Pandora’s box
City Attorney Elizabeth Sconzert’s decision to seek guidance from federal authorities concerning Judge Pat Rosenow’s candidacy to serve on P&Z and, indirectly, support District I Councilwoman Cynthia Strong-Thompson’s unsanctioned request for an ethics opinion from the Louisiana Attorney General, has effectively stalled the nomination process, or worse, derailed the candidacy of an otherwise perfectly qualified individual.
While her intentions may have been rooted in ensuring compliance with ethics rules, the action creates a framework where any council member could invoke higher legal review to derail appointments. This is particularly alarming given the time-intensive nature of obtaining Attorney General opinions, which can take months to resolve.
And was Sconzert planning to seek an Attorney General’s opinion herself had Strong-Thompson not done so? Based on her and Strong-Thompson’s statements at the December 5th meeting, it seems that Sconzert either wouldn’t have done so, or she would have waited well into November.
And if Strong-Thompson’s request for an AG opinion was sanctioned by neither the council nor Sconzert, then why is the council obligated to wait for it? During debate at the aforementioned 2021 meeting, Sconzert herself — who did not initiate that particular AG opinion request — pointed out to the council that AG opinions are not binding.
Imagine if, tomorrow, another council member were to contact the Attorney General’s Office for a legal opinion regarding potential conflicts of interest for Potter.
Strong-Thompson requested an opinion for Rosenow without the city attorney’s knowledge or permission, yet the council is being told that Rosenow cannot be considered until the AG opines, and that could take months based on previous experience. So why couldn’t a different council member do the same for Potter? Even if such a request were frivolous, it would still have to wind its way through the process.
By Sconzert’s precedent, wouldn’t the council be obligated to withdraw Potter from consideration until the state legal opinion is returned? If not, wouldn’t that constitute unfair treatment of Rosenow compared to other candidates who didn’t face such a delay triggered by an identical circumstance?
Aren’t there the same risks for legal challenges simply by the fact that Rosenow has been “asterisked” — as described by Discon — keeping him from consideration this late in the process?
By the way, who is the city attorney specifically concerned about who might sue the city if Potter isn’t appointed?
There are so many unanswered questions surrounding this mess. It doesn’t make sense.
No good deed goes unpunished
The ripple effects are clear. Rosenow’s candidacy, despite his proactive efforts to secure a favorable ethics opinion from his federal superiors, has been sidelined under the shadow of an unresolved “asterisk” as per Councilman at Large Scott Discon December 5th.
The irony is striking: Rosenow provided written confirmation that his position wouldn’t conflict with federal ethics rules, but this was disregarded in favor of waiting for state-level validation. This procedural maneuver not only hinders qualified applicants but also delays the council’s effective governance.
The broader implications of this strategy are equally worrisome. If council members feel emboldened to request Attorney General opinions on contentious issues, it could lead to a cascading series of delays, leaving critical appointments or policies in limbo. This tactic could be selectively employed, weaponizing legal bureaucracy to favor or block certain candidates. In essence, the city attorney has laid the groundwork for obstruction.
Furthermore, this approach disproportionately affects applicants, like Rosenow, who are willing to go above and beyond to clarify their qualifications. Rosenow’s email, sent just minutes before the December 5th meeting, exemplified diligence and transparency. That his efforts were disregarded reflects poorly on the city’s process, which now appears more concerned with procedural posturing than ensuring ethical clarity.
The insistence on waiting for an Attorney General opinion effectively sidelines not only Rosenow but also any sense of urgency. Discon’s assertion that all three candidates could eventually serve in staggered terms is a thinly veiled attempt to justify the delay. If the council indeed rotates through nominees, then Rosenow’s candidacy today should not warrant this level of scrutiny tomorrow.
Public trust eroded
The ultimate casualty in this debacle is public trust. Residents expect their leaders to strike a balance between legal prudence and practical governance. Instead, they are witnessing a process bogged down by unnecessary delays and bureaucratic maneuvering. The city attorney’s decision to involve the Attorney General by permitting Strong-Thompson’s unauthorized actions, while perhaps intended to ensure fairness, has only complicated matters and raised questions about the underlying reasons for these delays.
Mandeville’s City Council must reconsider its approach to handling such sensitive issues. While transparency and ethics are essential, they cannot compromise decisiveness and fairness. If the “nuclear option” of seeking Attorney General opinions becomes routine, it will undermine the council’s credibility and effectiveness.
Additionally, it could have a chilling impact on individuals in the public who otherwise would be inclined to volunteer for such bodies in the future.
Mandeville’s leaders must ensure that this incident does not set a precedent for future occurrences. The council should prioritize streamlining its processes to facilitate timely decisions while maintaining ethical scrutiny. In the meantime, Judge Rosenow and the other applicants deserve clarity—not an indefinite wait in procedural limbo.
Councilman says one candidate has ‘asterisk’ by name
Potter not named as nominee in published agenda for next meeting
Updated 12/15/2024: Adds comment from Councilman at Large Scott Discon that he was unaware of Judge Pat Rosenow’s email before the December 5th meeting.
MANDEVILLE — The City Council’s nominating committee met in a public session on December 5th to deliberate on filling a vacant seat on the Planning & Zoning Commission.
The meeting was called following concerns over a potential violation of Louisiana’s Open Meetings Law after Councilman at Large Scott Discon and District I Councilwoman Cynthia Strong-Thompson initially discussed their nomination in private.
During the December 5th meeting, Discon acknowledged the misstep and explained the purpose of the public deliberation, as advised by City Attorney Elizabeth Sconzert, to avoid potential legal challenges.
The council has three applicants for the position: Ernest Burguières, a local attorney and former council member with regional planning expertise; Shawn Potter, Tulane University’s director of institutional research; and Judge Pat Rosenow, a chief administrative law judge with the U.S. Department of Labor.
Ethics Questions Cloud Rosenow’s Candidacy
The discussion took a sharp turn toward ethics concerns surrounding Rosenow’s application.
Sconzert said she contacted Rosenow’s superiors at the Department of Labor in early November to determine if his role as an administrative law judge could present a conflict of interest in serving on the local commission.
This followed the October 24th City Council meeting, where the committee’s initial nomination of Shawn Potter faced opposition from a majority of the council members.
While Sconzert stated her belief that Rosenow did not fall into any disqualifying categories, she sought formal confirmation from federal authorities.
Strong-Thompson revealed that she had also sought an ethics opinion from the Louisiana Attorney General’s office regarding Rosenow’s eligibility, a move that Strong-Thompson said Sconzert admonished as it was done without the city attorney’s knowledge.
Both officials noted that such opinions could take considerable time to obtain, leaving Rosenow’s candidacy in limbo, according to Discon.
“Two are qualified without any asterisk; we’ve got one with an asterisk,” Discon stated, referencing Rosenow’s pending ethics evaluations.
He suggested that Rosenow’s candidacy should be deferred until the questions surrounding his eligibility were resolved, emphasizing that “we appoint someone to the commission once a year, so in a matter of three years all three of these applicants could be on planning and zoning.”
New Evidence Emerges
After the meeting, a public records request by Mandeville Daily uncovered an email sent by Rosenow to Discon and other city officials less than an hour before the December 5th meeting began. In the email, Rosenow attempted to address the ethics concerns raised by the city attorney. He reported that after discussions with the Department of Labor’s Office of Judges General Counsel and solicitor, he was advised that serving on the commission was not prohibited under federal ethics rules.
Rosenow’s email included a summary of the ethics counsel’s opinion: “Thank you for sharing the additional information about the planning commission. As we discussed, this outside activity is not prohibited.”
Sconzert and Discon both stated that they nor other officials were aware of Rosenow’s email, sent at 3:39 p.m., before or during the meeting, which started at 4:30 p.m.
Next Steps
The meeting adjourned without a final nominee, though indications pointed to the committee reiterating its previous nomination of Shawn Potter. The full City Council could vote on the nominee after a public hearing on December 19th.
Whether Rosenow’s email will impact the final decision remains uncertain, but for now, the spotlight remains on the council’s handling of the matter.
The City Council was expected to vote on the nominee — presumably Potter — at the upcoming December 19th regular meeting, however, the agenda published by the City of Mandeville today (December 12th) does not mention Potter’s name:
“Nomination and Appointment of Candidate to the Mandeville Planning and Zoning Commission.”
Excerpt from the published agenda for the December 19, 2024, City Council meeting, dated December 12, 2024. (Mandeville Daily)
Under Louisiana law, La. R.S. 42:19(A)(1)(b)(ii)(bb) governs the requirement for reasonable specificity in the agenda items for public meetings, including city council meetings. This statute is part of Louisiana’s Open Meetings Law. It specifies that agendas must include sufficient detail to inform the public of the matters to be discussed at the meeting.
Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman referenced this at the October 24th meeting as the reason the council couldn’t vote on Potter that night, which they didn’t, after consulting with Sconzert.
Full council to hold public hearing and vote Dec. 19th
MANDEVILLE — The City of Mandeville today released the résumés of the applicants vying to fill an empty seat on the Planning & Zoning Commission.
The city doesn’t voluntarily publish résumés of applicants for such positions without a public records request.
Mandeville Daily filed its request this week and is publishing the information here because we believe such disclosures serve the public interest (Louisiana R.S. §44:12.1A).
Prior to 2020, the city would publish this information on its website once the application period was closed.
A nominating committee made up of Councilman at Large Scott Discon and District I Councilwoman Cynthia Strong-Thompson will meet December 5th at 4:30 p.m. in Council Chambers. That meeting is open to the public, but only a nomination will be made, not the actual appointment.
The appointment, as well as a public hearing for the nominee, must be voted on and held by the full council (CLURO §2.1.2), which will happen at the regularly scheduled meeting December 19th at 6 p.m. in Council Chambers.
Member of the Old Mandeville Historic Association / Participant in home tour, having owned an historic home since the mid-1990s (~1995-Present)
Mandeville Comprehensive Plan Steering Committee member (2024-Present)
General counsel to the Regional Planning Commission for Orleans, Jefferson, Plaquemines, St. Charles, St. Bernard, St. John the Baptist, St. Tammany and Tangipahoa Parishes (1980-Present)
Experience with commercial and real estate issues, often involving zoning and land-use issues in the greater New Orleans area, including the French Quarter.
Commissioner of conservation, Assistant Secretary of the Department of Natural Resources, State of Louisiana (1994-1996)
Administrative law judge, Louisiana Motor Vehicle Commission (1992-1996) (1997-2004)
Employment History
Practiced general civil law, including commercial and real estate cases often involving zoning and land-use issues in Greater New Orleans Area and French Quarter, through his private practice (1986-Present)
Practiced general civil law (1980-1985)
Education
Bachelor of Science in Business Administration, Loyola University in New Orleans (1975)
Juris Doctor and Master of Business Administration degrees, Loyola Law School in New Orleans (1980)
Zuckerman complains to council, officials about ‘offensive’ petition Nicholas Cressy sent to council
Questions ‘appropriateness’ of P&Z member lobbying council during appointment process
MANDEVILLE — Newest Planning & Zoning Commissioner Nicholas Cressy triggered a heated response from Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman today (November 22nd) over a petition he sent to the council yesterday (November 21st) with 32 signatures urging presumably that Shawn Potter be appointed to the vacant P&Z seat.
Although the petition and Cressy’s email avoid naming any of the three P&Z applicants, the platitudinous language of the text made it clear to Zuckerman and other sources familiar with the situation that Cressy is openly lobbying on behalf of Shawn Potter:
“We ask the City Council to strongly consider a candidate who can bring a fresh, long-term perspective to the commission. Including younger voices in the decision-making process will enhance the diversity and depth of thought on the commission, benefiting all Mandeville residents—today and in the years to come,” Cressy wrote in part.
The ages of applicants for the open P&Z seat are: Judge Pat Rosenow at age 70, Ernest Burguières at age 72, and Potter at only 45.
“I am deeply concerned about the appropriateness of a sitting Planning and Zoning Commissioner circulating what amounts to a petition, weighing in publicly on an appointment for that same Commission, and lobbying the Council during the appointment process,” Zuckerman replied via email to his fellow City Council members, Mayor Clay Madden, and other city officials.
Cressy was nominated to the P&Z by Zuckerman and former District II Councilman Dr. Skelly Kreller to replace Nixon Adams. Cressy was confirmed on August 24th, 2023.
Text of Zuckerman’s email to City Council and other officials:
Chairman Discon, fellow Council Members, Mayor Madden:
As you all know, I do not participate in discussion or debate concerning matters before the Council via group email, and that is not my intent here in replying to all regarding this email and the “Open Letter to City Council” that is attached to it.
Setting aside the issue of whether considering a “younger” candidate over an “older” candidate because of their age is appropriate (I actually find it offensive), or how one even would define such a thing if one were to consider that, I am deeply concerned about the appropriateness of a sitting Planning and Zoning Commissioner circulating what amounts to a petition, weighing in publicly on an appointment for that same Commission, and lobbying the Council during the appointment process. While this email and petition does not mention any specific current applicant by name, its intent is clear.
In my opinion, it’s inappropriate at the very least and should be addressed by the Planning & Zoning Commission.
Respectfully,
Jason Zuckerman City of Mandeville, Council At Large
Text of Nicholas Cressy’s email to the City Council:
Dear Members of the Mandeville City Council:
Please find the attached letter containing 32 signatures from Mandeville residents in support of this public comment. We urge the City Council to consider candidates who can bring a fresh, long-term perspective to the Planning and Zoning Commission, including younger voices. Incorporating younger individuals, particularly parents and young families, will enhance the commission’s diversity and improve decision-making for all Mandeville residents, both now and in the future.
While we value the qualifications of the current applicants, we believe the commission would benefit from more representation from younger individuals who will be directly affected by planning decisions in the years to come. As Mandeville revises its Comprehensive Land Use and Zoning Ordinance (CLURO), we must consider the long-term impact on future generations. The
“Thrive 2048” initiative reminds us of our responsibility to plan for the future, not just for today’s residents but also for those who will inherit this city.
Including diverse age perspectives will help address the needs of families raising children today and ensure that the city develops in a sustainable, vibrant, and safe manner for future generations.
Thank you for your consideration.
NICHOLAS V. CRESSY Partner 1222 Annunciation Street New Orleans, LA 70130 Т. 504.605.0777 F. 504.322.3884 nicholas@fcjlaw.com http://www.fcjlaw.com
We, the undersigned, respectfully submit this petition to urge the City Council to consider the importance of age diversity when selecting candidates for the open position on the Planning and Zoning Commission.
While we recognize and appreciate the qualifications and capabilities of the current applicants, we believe the commission would benefit greatly from the inclusion of younger perspectives, particularly those of parents and young families. Though the current commission is diverse in terms of gender and race, it lacks significant representation from younger individuals who will be directly impacted by the planning and zoning decisions made in the years to come.
As Mandeville begins the process of revising its Comprehensive Land Use and Zoning Ordinance (CLURO), it is crucial to take into account the long-term implications these decisions will have on future generations. The title of the current planning survey, “Thrive 2048,” underscores the forward-thinking responsibility we carry. Decisions made now will shape our city’s development not only for today’s residents but also for children, grandchildren, and beyond.
For many families, particularly those with young children, it is essential to have a voice in this process. Parents who are raising children today are deeply invested in creating a community that is safe, vibrant, and sustainable for the next generation. A commission that reflects a range of age perspectives will bring more inclusive and innovative solutions to the challenges ahead.
As a millennial, I have seen firsthand the barriers and challenges younger generations face when trying to get involved in local governance. While we are often encouraged to participate, when we do, there is sometimes resistance. However, it is critical that we begin involving the next generation in shaping Mandeville’s future now—before it is our turn to lead. Engaging younger individuals will ensure that we are well-prepared to be responsible stewards of Mandeville, considering not just the immediate needs but the lasting impact of the choices we make today.
We ask the City Council to strongly consider a candidate who can bring a fresh, long-term perspective to the commission. Including younger voices in the decision-making process will enhance the diversity and depth of thought on the commission, benefiting all Mandeville residents—today and in the years to come.
Thank you for your attention to this important matter.
Vogeltanz, Zuckerman fought to keep nomination, vote
Discon, Strong-Thompson to re-nominate Dec. 5 as ‘remedy’ to Open Meetings violation
Rules do not require committee to meet, just make nomination
Potter expected to receive nomination again
Still faces long odds at Dec. 21 appointment vote
MANDEVILLE — The City Council voted 3-2 (November 21st) in effect to nullify a nomination to the Planning & Zoning Commission it had accepted at the previous meeting after it was acknowledged that the nominating committee likely violated the state’s Open Meetings Law by meeting in private.
Shawn Potter was nominated October 24th by Councilman at Large Scott Discon and District I Councilwoman Cynthia Strong-Thompson who were appointed to a nominating committee by Discon beforehand.
At last night’s regular City Council meeting (November 21st), Discon informed the chamber of his Open Meetings violation, brought to the city attorney’s attention by District II Councilman Kevin Vogeltanz.
City Attorney Elizabeth Sconzert told the council that to avoid potential legal challenges, they should meet again to make the Potter nomination, but this time advertise their meeting and hold it in public.
I have no reason to believe that that nomination (Potter) is going to change, but the purpose of that meeting is to allow the public to come and comment on the qualifications during that nominating. — City Attorney Elizabeth Sconzert
“I think you just need to go back to where the defect is identified. So I think you would need to set a meeting to hold the nominating committee’s discussion of the applicants, and you’d have all the applicants available for that discussion, because it is required under CLURO 2.1.2 that the applicants are there for that hearing,” Sconzert told the council members.
However, this appears to be a misreading of the Comprehensive Land Use Regulation Ordinance (CLURO) §2.1.2, which reads in part:
“No person shall be appointed to the Planning Commission until a public hearing before the City Council attended by the nominee has been held.”
But the nominating committee is not the full City Council — it’s only two of its members, Discon and Strong-Thompson.
The “public hearing” requirement would be satisfied at the regularly scheduled City Council meeting where the actual vote to appoint occurs, not when a small committee might meet to determine their nominee.
The new nomination meeting is scheduled for December 5th at 4:30 p.m. in Council Chambers, with a confirmation vote set for the next regular City Council meeting on December 19th.
But Vogeltanz challenged the delay, arguing that the Open Meetings violation occurred incidental to the nomination itself, which was made during the regular City Council meeting October 24th where it was on the advertised agenda.
“It would seem to me that all the public notice requirements were satisfied. The nomination of Mr. Potter was put into a timely and properly noticed agenda, with timely properly noticed the debate and the vote tonight,” he said.
Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman joined Vogeltanz in his dissent:
“That seems like sort of an extreme remedy. … So is the nomination not valid, is that what you are saying?”
Sconzert replied, “I think you just need to start from that process (nomination) over. To make sure that you give those opportunities to the public. That would make it compliant … If you have a violation, you have to correct the defect.”
Zuckerman asked Discon to confirm that the vote last night was going to nullify the Potter nomination: “So Mr. Chairman (Discon)… so this ruling is in effect … voiding the nomination that was previously made (October 24th)?”
Because Discon, who also currently serves as the council chairman and presiding officer at meetings, ruled from the chair to cancel the Potter vote last night, Vogeltanz appealed that ruling under Robert’s Rules of Order Newly Revised 12th Edition (RRNR).
Under RRNR (§41:63), removing items from an agenda requires a majority vote of the council, but Discon made the decision unilaterally, hence Vogeltanz’s appeal.
The appeal lost 3-2, with only Vogeltanz and Zuckerman voting to move forward with the Potter vote. McGuire sided with Discon and Strong-Thompson, citing Sconzert’s concerns about a potential legal challenge should they have rejected Potter last night.
According to RRNR (§35), because the Potter nomination had been acted upon at the previous meeting, the correct procedure would have been a “motion to rescind” a previous action, which also would have required a majority of the council to approve.
Under the state’s Open Meetings Law, each violation of the law could result in a $500 fine per person.
Council rules dictate voting on applicants until one gets majority
Possible Open Meetings Law violation
MANDEVILLE — The man nominated to fill a vacancy on the Planning & Zoning Commission faces a tough vote Thursday, as suggested by comments from council members at the last meeting.
The nominating committee of Councilman at Large Scott Discon and District I Councilwoman Cynthia Strong-Thompson announced Shawn Potter, also from District I, as their choice to fill the seat left empty when Mike Pierce resigned.
Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman, District III Councilwoman Jill McGuire, and District II Councilman Kevin Vogeltanz voiced their opposition to the nominee.
Discon and Strong-Thompson defended their choice being from District I, explaining that one of the primary reasons they selected Potter was that District I is significantly larger than the other two districts. To illustrate their point, they presented a map on the Council Chamber monitors.
However, each of the three districts has roughly the same population, as is required by the City Home Rule Charter.
And although the charter doesn’t have a requirement for proportional P&Z representation among Mandeville’s equally populated three districts, currently, five of the seven P&Z members live in District III, while one lives in Strong-Thompson’s District I. District II has no representation.
Discon appointed himself and Strong-Thompson to the nominating committee.
The pool of applicants are: Potter from District I, Judge Pat Rosenow from District II, and Ernest Burguières from District III.
At the October 24th meeting, where Discon and Strong-Thompson nominated Potter, Discon cautioned that if the Potter vote were unsuccessful, the committee would face challenges in selecting a second choice:
“Now, what if the first person does not get in? Do we go back and choose a second? I think that’s what we just said. What if there’s a disagreement between the two (Discon and Strong-Thompson), the council at large and the council district committee over who goes next?”
City Attorney Elizabeth Sconzert said, “When the original resolution was drafted, there was a consensus … that at some point you guys would have to be able to agree…”
“OK, so if we can’t agree, what happens then?” asked Discon.
“The resolution doesn’t say,” Sconzert replied.
However, Vogeltanz, who is an attorney, reminded the other two attorneys — Sconzert and Discon — that “shall” is legal verbiage and they don’t have a choice but to make a second nomination if the first fails, and then a third if the second fails.
Discon signaled that rule 10 could pose a problem for him and Strong-Thompson if the Potter vote fails Thursday.
Excerpt from Resolution 24-60. (Mandeville Daily)
If the committee’s first nomination fails, rule 10 states the committee “shall” make another nomination from the remaining applicants.
By putting the word “shall” into their rules, this council, according to Vogeltanz, has tied its hands and must go through the list of applicants until there is a successful appointment or the list is exhausted. Only then, according to Resolution 24-60, does the process start over.
To further complicate matters, the committee of Discon and Strong-Thompson may have violated the state’s Open Meetings Law when they met to discuss the Potter nomination because they did not open the meeting to the public.
According to Louisiana’s Open Meetings Law (La. R.S. 42:13), all committees and subcommittees created by public bodies are also considered public bodies and, hence, subject to the Open Meetings Law as well.
Excerpt from La. R.S. 42. (Mandeville Daily)
Louisiana Attorneys General opinions relating to the state Open Meetings Law. (Mandeville Daily)
“So, um, without further ado then I guess we’ll do the nomination of the candidate for the Mandeville Planning & Zoning Commission. And, um, Cynthia, uh, Councilwoman Strong and I, Cynthia Strong and I, uh, sat today, this afternoon, and we, uh, conferred and we would like to nominate, um, Shawn Potter for as the nomination for, uh, Planning & Zoning,” Discon told the council at the October 24th regular meeting (1:30:46).
Mandeville Daily could find no record of a meeting by the nominating committee scheduled for that date, nor any other date advertised or posted in accordance with the state’s Open Meetings Law.
It is unclear if this will have an effect on the process at the next meeting.
The Potter vote is set for Thursday, November 21st, at 6 p.m. in the City Council Chambers at Mandeville City Hall.
Former Councilman at Large Rick Danielson may not have always been right, especially regarding Sucette Harbor, but as presiding officer, he upheld basic decorum at City Council meetings. He never silenced a dissenting voice or allowed intimidation among council members — not even inadvertently.
Danielson had a gift for noticing when someone signaled to speak, no matter how subtly, a trait that Councilman at Large Jason Zuckerman adopted during his tenure as well. Both men, in the alternating role as council chairman, gave every council member the chance to speak on each agenda item until all perspectives were either resolved or at least aired.
I don’t recall any meetings under their leadership where council members resorted to yelling, fist-pounding, aggressive pointing, or calling baseless points of order simply because they disagreed. Unfortunately, these behaviors have become all too familiar since Councilman at Large Scott Discon took over as chairman a few months ago.
At the October 24th meeting, the contentious issue of Planning & Zoning (P&Z) appointments was on the agenda. District III Councilwoman Jill McGuire was given the floor after Discon explained his decision to appoint District I Councilwoman Cynthia Strong-Thompson to a “small committee” responsible for making a P&Z nomination.
McGuire’s comments were among the most thoughtful I’ve heard in the Council Chambers — until she was abruptly interrupted by Strong-Thompson, who claimed to be “offended” by what she was hearing.
McGuire:“… (1:52:07) and it’s sad and depressing that the District II (council) member (Kevin Vogeltanz) reached out and said, ‘Hey, I wanna be on this committee, I want to be involved in this,” and they weren’t given… (interrupted).”
Strong-Thompson:“(1:52:17) I think I want to do a point of order. You’re challenging who was nominated — uh — asked to discuss this. That needs to stop.”
Discon:“(to Strong-Thompson) (1:52:23) I got it, I got it… (turning to McGuire) Yeah, this is not a debate.”
Strong-Thompson: “Yeah, this is not a debate of how this was chosen. … (1:52:53) I am OFFENDED! (shouting) Absolutely OFFENDED that you are challenging how the representation is going on.”
McGuire sat frozen with mouth agape, her hands raised in disbelief, effectively silenced by Discon’s intervention. Meanwhile, Strong-Thompson shouted, pounded the desk, and pointed emphatically, a scene underscoring the deterioration of civility in recent council meetings.
District III Councilwoman Jill McGuire sits stunned and frozen after being interrupted by District I Councilwoman Cynthia Strong-Thompson and silenced by Councilman at Large Scott Discon at the October 24th City Council Meeting (Mandeville Daily).
Though Zuckerman and District II Councilman Kevin Vogeltanz attempted to support McGuire, they were forced to wait as Discon reprimanded her.
Outraged viewers have described Strong-Thompson’s actions as an attempt at physical intimidation — a larger, louder member silencing her smaller, more composed colleague, with Discon’s authority reinforcing the dynamic.
Discon and Strong-Thompson crossed the line by disregarding both parliamentary procedure and decorum. Under Robert’s Rules of Order, the presiding officer should facilitate fair discussion, not muzzle dissent. McGuire’s comments were directly relevant to the P&Z nomination discussion, which makes Strong-Thompson’s point of order followed by Discon’s intervention inappropriate.
McGuire had done nothing wrong. The council chairman is supposed to protect everyone’s rights, not aid in trampling them.
A few points on parliamentary procedure make this clear:
Relevance/Germaneness (Freedom of Debate): McGuire’s remarks were pertinent to the main motion regarding the P&Z nomination. Discon had already shared his reasoning for Strong-Thompson’s appointment to the committee, making McGuire’s dissent relevant to the topic.
Rules of Decorum: McGuire violated no decorum rules. Strong-Thompson’s interruptions, on the other hand, broke several.
Point of Order: Strong-Thompson’s points of order were baseless. She failed to cite any rule McGuire was allegedly violating, instead expressing personal discomfort with McGuire’s criticism.
Time Limits: No time limit exists for council members, though citizens must keep comments to three minutes.
Summary of Robert’s Rules of Order. (MandevilleDaily)
Instead of backing Strong-Thompson, Discon should have ruled: “The councilwoman from District I is out of order. The councilwoman from District III has broken no rule. Her comments are germane to the agenda item. Ms. Strong-Thompson, you will have every opportunity to respond to Ms. McGuire’s comments. Ms. McGuire, would you kindly wrap it up so that everyone has a chance to respond. Thank you.”
Instead, Discon’s body language and dismissive responses further suggest he views council discussions as a courtesy he grants, not as the free exchange of ideas that council meetings should be.
Discon allows allies to exceed the three-minute rule during public comment periods, as seen in the October 10th meeting, when Zuckerman had called a point of order that was not recognized by Discon.
During the September 26th meeting when property tax renewals were before the council, Strong-Thompson called another junk point of order, this time, to shut Zuckerman down — with Discon’s help — while he was comparing and contrasting property tax rates with sales tax rates, making a parallel about the need to cut them or not. Perfectly germane and relevant to the discussion before the Council. And… Zuckerman had the floor.
Nevertheless, Strong-Thompson interrupted him, “Can I just say a point of order? Can we just discuss the ordinance at hand and not go off into left field?.” This was immediately followed by Discon, and then Strong-Thompson again, basically telling him he’s not allowed to make an argument they disagree with.
“That’s called hostage holding … I don’t like that kind of game plan,” Discon said, with Strong-Thompson chiming in, as if she were co-council-chairman, “You keep going off into left field on this, that and the other…”
Zuckerman retaliated, “I feel like I’m being bullied up here … This is not fair. I am allowed to make … an analogy if I wanna make an analogy … If y’all don’t agree with my points I’m making, don’t agree with them, but don’t shut me down … Disagree, but I don’t appreciate not being allowed to speak.”
Discon and Strong-Thompson have repeatedly stepped over the line by breaching decorum, violating parliamentary procedure, and intimidating fellow council members into silence.
This has led to parliamentary chaos at meetings.
Discon nor Strong-Thompson understands what a point of order is for. It’s strictly reserved for when a rule has been broken. No rule was broken by Zuckerman September 26th. No rule was broken by McGuire October 24th. But on October 10th, a rule actually was broken but Discon didn’t seem to have a problem, presumably, because it was a political ally doing it.
Strong-Thompson needs to learn to wait her turn and not step on, bully or shut down her fellow council members.
The Mandeville City Council is a legislative body — quite literally — so council meetings are the place they should air their disagreements on matters before the City. A point of order is not carte blanche to silence opposition.
With the way Danielson and Zuckerman facilitated meetings before August 2024, council members never felt the need to yell or interrupt each other. They simply waited their turns to speak, no matter how much they disliked what they were hearing.
To restore order and professionalism, Discon should apologize to McGuire, Zuckerman and their constituents at the next meeting, acknowledging the deprivation of fair representation on a critical issue. Strong-Thompson should do the same and promise to restrain herself.
Both should take the time to familiarize themselves with the true purpose of a point of order under Robert’s Rules of Order as well as what it means to respect the rights of your fellow elected members, even the ones you disagree with.
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